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Title: The Motor Company
Post by: barrypz on August 29, 2017, 06:34:28 PM
Harley-Davidson Quietly Kills Off the V-Rod

https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/bikes/goodbye-harley-davidson-v-rod/ (https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/bikes/goodbye-harley-davidson-v-rod/)
Title: Re: The Motor Company
Post by: oilhed on August 29, 2017, 07:35:31 PM
Damn!  A great power plant and a very cool frame. Just a shame it was too long and too much rake. With mid controls, a bench seat and more fuel I woulda bought one.
Title: Re: The Motor Company
Post by: SkiMan on August 29, 2017, 08:33:33 PM
The 2006 v-rod was the only one with mid controls stock on the bike and the engine was always reported as extremely reliable through all the years. Low mileage ones are reasonable priced for a Harley. Some articles have said that it was too bad that they never built a touring bike around that engine.
Title: Re: The Motor Company
Post by: oilhed on August 29, 2017, 09:06:41 PM
The 2006 v-rod was the only one with mid controls stock on the bike and the engine was always reported as extremely reliable through all the years. Low mileage ones are reasonable priced for a Harley. Some articles have said that it was too bad that they never built a touring bike around that engine.
I believe it was called the street rod, a name already reused. The mid controls were great but still too much rake and a horrible seat. A little extra gas resulted in a weird seat latch (Velcro?). At least it had shotgun exhaust. The later two side exhaust was even better. A cool design indeed but marketed to the wrong folk.
Title: Re: The Motor Company
Post by: barrypz on August 29, 2017, 10:28:49 PM
Harley is going to have to learn some new lessons or they will be history.  They are "evolving", but Indian is innovating.
Title: Re: The Motor Company
Post by: barrypz on January 30, 2018, 06:41:00 PM
Harley-Davidson Will Close Its Kansas City Plant

https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/news/harley-davidson-close-kansas-city-plant/ (https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/news/harley-davidson-close-kansas-city-plant/)
Title: The Motor Company
Post by: Jeff on January 30, 2018, 08:29:53 PM
They saturated the market. They needed to keep it like it was back in the early 2000's when you got put on a waiting list to buy one.
Title: Re: The Motor Company
Post by: SkiMan on January 30, 2018, 08:41:28 PM
I read that earlier today and really wasnít surprised. Used prices appear to be dropping.
Title: Re: The Motor Company
Post by: oilhed on January 31, 2018, 12:59:24 PM
They are already doing the right thing, new motor, new frame, eliminate models, eliminate factories, produce cheaper bike off-shore.

The problem is all those low mileage used bikes out there with dropping resale value.  No trade-in value!
Title: The Motor Company
Post by: Jeff on January 31, 2018, 02:33:27 PM
I think the age range of people that were drawn to them are to the point where they're giving up motorcycles as well. They need to attract younger riders to their brand and that's not going to happen with their archaic motorcycles. There are just too many options out there for some people to buy a Harley, you have to WANT one.
Title: Re: The Motor Company
Post by: barrypz on January 31, 2018, 07:48:35 PM
Harley-Davidson Electric Motorcycle Coming in 18 Months

https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/news/harley-davidson-electric-motorcycle-18-months/ (https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/news/harley-davidson-electric-motorcycle-18-months/)
Title: Re: The Motor Company
Post by: oilhed on January 31, 2018, 08:14:08 PM
I watched the VRod documentary again today.  It's really interesting.  Lotsa cool engineering to do things Harley never did before.  But now that the VRod is dead I had a new observation.  At every turn the bosses were tweaking or changing the design to make it appeal to the traditional Harley owner.  The traditional Harley owner was never gonna buy a VRod and all those design changes made it less appealing to the rest of us.  That first prototype with a VR motor shoved in a frame with all the plumbing out there to see was the one I liked the most.  All they had to do was not rake out the fork, not step & dish the seat and make it with a 5 gal. fuel tank and I might have bought one!
Title: Re: The Motor Company
Post by: SkiMan on January 31, 2018, 08:43:17 PM
The 2006 was the only one with the pulled back foot controls. Thatís the one that interested me most....if I were interested in a Harley. You can find the early ones with really low mileage for less then 7k
Title: Re: The Motor Company
Post by: oilhed on February 01, 2018, 08:21:25 AM
Actually did some research.  The Street Rod V-rod had the mid-controls but the year after they made some other changes that made the motor better.  Somewhere in there they had a different rake, too.  The Street Rod V-rod had a bigger gas tank but the seat latch/lock was lost and it was held down with a strap!  If I could pick and choose from all the variants I could make a V-rod that would appeal to me AND probably a lot of people that would/will never buy a Harley.  Something like this with mid-controls and a flatter seat:
(https://cdp.azureedge.net/products-private/prod/94a73515-66b2-490f-85c0-66458a4934b8/1f007112-177d-41f9-a3b7-45676f6b5052/00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000/5edd531f-2548-48c7-8b25-a856016a72b9/7548eb47-f076-4968-b093-a856016a72da/6000000001.jpg)
Title: The Motor Company
Post by: Jeff on February 01, 2018, 08:37:31 AM
My word, that thing looks nowhere near comfortable to me. Seems like you're trying to touch your toes in that riding position.
Title: Re: The Motor Company
Post by: barrypz on February 01, 2018, 01:48:46 PM
I sat on a few cruisers just to see what it was like.  I still like the seating position of the VFR I have.  Ask again in 10 years.
Title: Re: The Motor Company
Post by: oilhed on February 03, 2018, 11:56:30 AM
My word, that thing looks nowhere near comfortable to me. Seems like you're trying to touch your toes in that riding position.
Yeah, draw a level line from the pillion to the faux tank and add mid controls and it'd be a different beast!
Title: Re: The Motor Company
Post by: barrypz on February 08, 2018, 07:41:12 PM
The Stranger-Than-Fiction Saga Of Harley-Davidson's Japanese Stepchild

https://www.cycleworld.com/stranger-than-fiction-saga-harley-davidsons-japanese-stepchild-from-archives (https://www.cycleworld.com/stranger-than-fiction-saga-harley-davidsons-japanese-stepchild-from-archives)
Title: Re: The Motor Company
Post by: barrypz on March 07, 2018, 05:51:45 PM
Harley-Davidson Warns of Tariffs' Impact

https://www.barrons.com/articles/harley-davidson-warns-of-tariffs-impact-1520357277?mod=hp_RTA (https://www.barrons.com/articles/harley-davidson-warns-of-tariffs-impact-1520357277?mod=hp_RTA)
Title: Re: The Motor Company
Post by: barrypz on August 01, 2018, 05:25:58 PM
More info on Harley-Davidson's Livewire and other electric bikes

https://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-news-new-bikes/more-info-harley-davidsons-livewire-and-other-electric-bikes (https://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-news-new-bikes/more-info-harley-davidsons-livewire-and-other-electric-bikes)
Title: Re: The Motor Company
Post by: oilhed on August 05, 2018, 12:53:19 PM
(https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/crash.net/visordown.com/field/image/Pan_America%20copy.jpg)

https://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-news-new-bikes/new-harley-davidson-pan-america-1250-adventure-tourer (https://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-news-new-bikes/new-harley-davidson-pan-america-1250-adventure-tourer)

I do like the subdued tank logo.  Headlight, not so much...

(http://members.modernvespa.net/skymed/uploads/bender_21825.jpg)
Title: Re: The Motor Company
Post by: Jeff on August 07, 2018, 05:33:54 PM
I don't hate it but..., that headlight!! I'm sure it'll weigh 700 lbs too.
Title: Re: The Motor Company
Post by: barrypz on August 17, 2018, 09:18:19 PM
Harley-Davidson Unleashes New Model Range

https://www.places2ride.com/blog/harley-davidson-unleashes-new-model-range (https://www.places2ride.com/blog/harley-davidson-unleashes-new-model-range)
Title: Re: The Motor Company
Post by: oilhed on August 27, 2018, 09:25:55 PM
I keep looking at this Sport Glide.  It's not purrrrfect.  I'm not in love with the mag wheels and I wish it had dual discs up front.  But today I learned you can put the LowRider midpegs or Heritage/Deluxe floorboards on it.  I dig the clamshell bags and with this Bassani exhaust it looks close to what I want.  I wish the MoCo would just let me design their next bike!
Title: Re: The Motor Company
Post by: barrypz on January 08, 2019, 09:24:06 PM
Harley-Davidson announces Livewire price and opens orders

https://www.visordown.com/news/new-bikes/harley-davidson-announces-livewire-price-and-opens-orders (https://www.visordown.com/news/new-bikes/harley-davidson-announces-livewire-price-and-opens-orders)
Title: Re: The Motor Company
Post by: GuzziGerry on January 09, 2019, 06:30:08 AM
Harley-Davidson announces Livewire price and opens orders

https://www.visordown.com/news/new-bikes/harley-davidson-announces-livewire-price-and-opens-orders (https://www.visordown.com/news/new-bikes/harley-davidson-announces-livewire-price-and-opens-orders)

Roughly 30K $$ for a bike  that can only go 110 miles on a charge??  WTF, I couldn't make it up to the "Bean and back on that. :facepalm: :facepalm:
Title: Re: The Motor Company
Post by: oilhed on January 09, 2019, 06:53:54 PM
I honestly don't get electric motorcycles.  Maybe for dedicated racers, off road only and commuter/scooters.  But they gotta be priced to sell.  You know as soon as you buy one a better model will come out for less $.